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09 Jun 2010 | Victorian government deems automatic renewal of Crown land leases unfair

Do you think a two to three-year wait for an annually-leased caravanning and camping site on Crown land unfair?

According to the Victorian government, it is.

Lyall Johnson, spokesperson for the environment minister, Gavin Jennings, said the government’s recent move to shut down the automatic roll-over of these leases was about giving other campers a fair go. Under the previous arrangement, existing leaseholders had an “unfair advantage”.

“People could hold a permit and lock out a site for a decade or more,” he said.

Mr Johnson said that waiting lists for annual camping leases on the most popular parks on Crown land were between two and three years. He said the Great Ocean Road Coast Committee, which develops projects to enhance the coast’s natural and cultural values, was one of the community committees consulted.

Victorian Caravan Parks Association (VicParks) executive officer Peter Corish said VicParks – whose members include leaseholders of caravan parks on Crown land – had not been consulted during the decision-making process. Mr Corish said he learned of the changes by reading an online news report, and that the VicParks would decide an appropriate response.

“Long term annuals are going to have to take their units from there and there will be financial disadvantage to them,” Mr Corish said.

“Some of these people are paying $5000 a year.”

  • Is the Victorian government’s move to cease the automatic roll-over of annual caravan and camping leases on Victorian Crown land a bid to ‘clean up’ prime real estate or is it fair?
COMMENTS (16)
Comment by Unknown
posted 2 months ago
We bought our on site van at Ocean Grove in 2008; six weeks later we were told of changes that would affect us. We would not have bought the van if we had been advised, the Government knew, Barwon Heads Committee of Management knew and no one bothered to advise us. Hence, we stand to lose thousands of dollars as our circumstances have changed and we have to sell but can't sell it on site. How can this be allowed to happen? No one cares - we are average Australians who cannot afford to lose this kind of money. No on in Government or the opposition evens answers our emails. It has to be illegal someone has to compensate us for our loss. our van and annexe has been completely renovated, the side wall of the van into the annexe removed and it has a plumbed ensuite - it will be neigh on impossible to move. Yes, we are angry and disappointed. We suffer and so will the local community - even more than us.
Comment by Unknown
posted 6 months ago
If there are so few caravan sites available then why should a few people hog them by holding on to permanent sites while others can't even find a place to park their van for a few weeks holiday. Maybe if they were shared around more people would come to those parks all year round & the revenue to the park owners/managers would start to increase & they might even come out ahead of what they get now.
Comment by Unknown
posted 7 months ago
if bathing boxes scatterd around port phillip bay are situated on crown land and my caravan is situated on crown land at a foreshore caravan park then the same should apply.I think the new state govt. should have a good look at this. bathing boxes are being sold on crown land with annual leases for a lot more than they are worth, all i want is to see my children have an affordable annual holiday.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I was wondering why the Brumby government copped so much flack in the leadup to the election - no wonder. As a RV owner, I am in need of a long term (preferably) powered site with grey/black water and potable water connected. When will caravan parks realise that an twelve metre long bus cannot get into these sardine-can parks and do what the Casino RV park has done - purchase a large plot OUTSIDE town with the ability to spread out a bit without all the pools, tennis courts etc that older people don't really need?
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
these changes have come into effect in NSW (jb), anyone selling their onsite vans must sell it off site.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Is n.s.w. next / thank you for your heads up .. jb Berrara N.S.W.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
In most of the comments I have read are all about the costal parks. I camp in a caravan park called Tawonga just out of Mt Beauty in the Alpine region. Which has 144 powered sites 16 weeks of the year the park can be almost full but the remaining 36 weeks the park is empty.It does not have a big turn over of campers and caravaners because of the remote position in the Alpine area.The region relies on patrons visiting the the park and the small towns of Mt Beauty and Tawonga. The peak period of the park is now.I stayed in the park the long weekend, the only people in the park were the annual people who continue to visit all year round.So by the DSE bringing in new laws I think the community, the businesses and the Leeses that have paid a large amount for the lease will all be worse off financially.If the annuals have to move from their sites, I dont think they will stay in the park ever again, therefore its the whole community that will suffer. So if I was ALP goverment I would have a hard look at this Policy because I am a Labour voter for the last 20 years and what this is doing to Victorian Working Families and my family, JOHN BRUMBY YOU COULD LOSE MY VOTE. P.S I will tell everyone in the Western suburbs about this new DSE policy you have destroyed my famlies holiday spot.
TAWONGA CARAVAN PARK PATRON.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Maybe some others will get a chance at these sites that are never available to others....
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
So what exactly are to trying to do Mr Brumby?
People who permanently rent caravan sites currently pay in excess of $5000 per year Mr Brumby. A proportion of that goes to the caravan park manager Mr Brumby.
With your proposed plan of applying for a permit will mean that the permanent renter is no longer paying $5000 a year. With the introduction of permit applications where the permit holder can stay at the caravan park for a maximum of 180 days. How much does that equate to Mr Brumby maybe $2000. Now the caravan park manager is out of pocket $3000 and that is only one site Mr Brumby. Multiply that by the number of permanent sites and it will be a lot of money Mr Brumby.
If you didn’t know it Mr Brumby caravan managers need income too.
This is one of your half baked ideas jut like the rail link you plan to put through Footscray. Where are you getting the funding for that Mr Brumby?
Lost me too Mr Brumby
Franks friend
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Caravan Parks on Crown Land; this is one you have stuffed up Brumby by upsetting the families who take their family holidays over the Xmas period. What about all the families that have spent thousand's of $$ on their caravans and annexes. By getting rid of the permanents this will greatly affect the income of caravan park owners, permanents pay upto $5000 per year so that’s $5000 off the bottom line of income, oh the Brumby Govt didn’t tell you about that either. People who complain that they cannot get a particular site will probably only want that site for a year and then they will move on. There are probably 99% of people who do not know about this new Act, wait until the Xmas period is over and they try to rebook for the next year only to be told someone else has your site, this is just the beginning of the uproar Brumby. The Brumby Govt doesn’t care about family holiday campers, just look at what he did with the Footscray residents about their homes for the new rail link (pull’em down but don’t tell them), apology is to late! Are you going to compensate the families for their caravans Mr Brumby? I am a Labor man but the Brumby Govt has lost the plot on this one.
Lost me and the Election Brumby
Frank
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I dont believe this fair as most people wait years to find the site they like and then to just have to give it seems wrong . Perhaps Governments should assist by helping to open additional Parks .

Robert .
Geelong
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I am quite sure that John Brumby and the Labor government have ulterior motives behind this decision.This is supposedly a Government "for the WORKING PEOPLE", what a joke! what they really mean is we will divide the people, take the land and build 'housing for the hordes'. All of our traditional Australian ways are being taken off us, with little or no choice for most of us. Don't let them win! Even if you are traditional Labor voters, stop and think about it. These are not the ways of the OLD LABOR party that was for the working people. These days the majority of Labor M.P's are very wealthy people who now want to make the ordinary Australians all equal(equally poorer, with fewer rights) Don't let them ruin our freedom of lifestyle we have enjoyed for many years. We do not own a site we are caravanners who like to get around while we can.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Question ?? How hard is is to build more parks for people like ME who own a van and can not get a permanent spot anywhere ???? Build more parks Vic gov and stop harrasing people that have set up there little peice of paradise !
Chris Papa
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
We own a caravan park on foreshore Crown land and have a large number of annual/permanent vans, the owners of which could stand to lose significant amounts of money. This policy may go a small way to free up parks but we turn away thousands every peak holiday period. The problem is compounded by the sale of freehold parks to property developers and the non replacement of those Parks. In this shire alone three parks have recently closed, so where do all those campers and annuals go? Over the last 4 years two studies were done on caravan and camping in Victoria with very strong recommendations being made to DSE (Dept Sustainability and Environment) to make more crown land available for caravan and camping eg there is some land next door to our annuals section on the foreshore which is becoming a huge fire risk and not used for anything. I am not aware of any actions the DSE have taken on freeing up land. This recently announced policy change is never going to provide the solution. Because land in beachside towns is so expensive, no individual or company is going to spend $m's in developing a caravan park because it would take too long to recoup the investment. THe government must make more crown land available, and any actions they are planning or have taken have not been mentioned anywhere in the policy and subsequent announcement.
David Wilson
Cape Paterson Caravan Park
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I do not think the Victorian Govt has any thoughts about caravaners! my ex neighbour who is an avid ALP supporter and party member has informed me that all the residents of the park in Narre Warren, close to the station,[Casey Council, Labour controlled] have been given notice to quit and the site is sold to Real Estate developers who will build homes for "Australian Working Families" Most of the residents are Australians who have made this country what it is, a fit place for "New Australians" to live in and those old residents never got the help the new members of our society are getting.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
The Victoeian Government cleaning up yet again. Given their past performance there has to be another reason for doing this. I pity the poor campers who have basically on site vans almost as much as I am concerned for the wellbeing of the Park operators. I think that there will be substantial losses all round.

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